Friday, September 3, 2010

The complete guide to killing non-Jews

The complete guide to killing non-Jews


Israel Does Not Want Peace


Projection of the West Bank Final Status Map presented by Israel, Camp David, July 2000 and the Western media kept it secret.


I believe the 9/11 had something to do with this ‘genuine’ offer.


A young girl understands Israeli hypocrisy but USA doesn’t


Israel Does Not Want Peace.


Faruque Ahmed said so in Faruque vs Lucy re Israeli Palestine Conflict

Taxi


Settler Rabbi publishes “The complete guide to killing non-Jews” — UPDATED

November 9, 2009 Didi Remez Leave a comment Go to comments

LATEST UPDATE — August 30 2010: Max Blumenthal reports from a conference supporting the rabbi (older updates at bottom.)


The ultra-fundamentalist Od Yosef Hai yeshiva in the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar is infamous for its involvement in settler violence against Palestinians. Memorably, one of the students fired a homemade “Kassam” rocket at the neighboring village of Burin in June 2008. This morning, Maariv reports that the Yeshiva’s dean has just published on the proscribed dos and don’ts (mainly the former) regarding the killing of gentiles. Here are some choice excerpts.

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“In any situation in which a non-Jew’s presence endangers Jewish lives, the non-Jew may be killed even if he is a righteous Gentile and not at all guilty for the situation that has been created…When a non-Jew assists a murderer of Jews and causes the death of one, he may be killed, and in any case where a non-Jew’s presence causes danger to Jews, the non-Jew may be killed…The [Din Rodef] dispensation applies even when the pursuer is not threatening to kill directly, but only indirectly…Even a civilian who assists combat fighters is considered a pursuer and may be killed. Anyone who assists the army of the wicked in any way is strengthening murderers and is considered a pursuer. A civilian who encourages the war gives the king and his soldiers the strength to continue. Therefore, any citizen of the state that opposes us who encourages the combat soldiers or expresses satisfaction over their actions is considered a pursuer and may be killed. Also, anyone who weakens our own state by word or similar action is considered a pursuer…Hindrances—babies are found many times in this situation. They block the way to rescue by their presence and do so completely by force. Nevertheless, they may be killed because their presence aids murder. There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation they may be harmed deliberately, and not only during combat with adults.”…In a chapter entitled “Deliberate harm to innocents,” the book explains that war is directled mainly against the pursuers, but those who belong to the enemy nation are also considered the enemy because they are assisting murderers.

A full translation of the Maariv article can be read after the jump.

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The complete guide to killing non-Jews

Roi Sharon, Maariv, November 9 2009 [page 2 with front page teaser]

When is it permissible to kill non-Jews? The book Torat ha-Melekh [The King’s Teaching], which was just published, was written by Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, the dean of the Od Yosef Hai yeshiva in the community of Yitzhar near Nablus, together with another rabbi from the yeshiva, Yossi Elitzur. The book contains no fewer than 230 pages on the laws concerning the killing of non-Jews, a kind of guide for anyone who ponders the question of if and when it is permissible to take the life of a non-Jew.

Although the book is not being distributed by the leading book companies, it has already received warm recommendations from right-wing elements, including recommendations from important rabbis such as Yitzhak Ginsburg, Dov Lior and Yaakov Yosef, that were printed at the beginning of the book. The book is being distributed via the Internet and through the yeshiva, and at this stage the introductory price is NIS 30 per copy. At the memorial ceremony that was held over the weekend in Jerusalem for Rabbi Meir Kahane, who was killed nineteen years ago, copies of the book were sold.

Throughout the book, the authors deal with in-depth theoretical questions in Jewish religious law regarding the killing of non-Jews. The words “Arabs” and “Palestinians” are not mentioned even indirectly, and the authors are careful to avoid making explicit statements in favor of an individual taking the law into his own hands. The book includes hundreds of sources from the Bible and religious law. The book includes quotes from Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook, one of the fathers of religious Zionism, and from Rabbi Shaul Yisraeli, one of the deans of the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva, the stronghold of national-religious Zionism that is located in Jerusalem.

The book opens with a prohibition against killing non-Jews and justifies it, among other things, on the grounds of preventing hostility and any desecration of God’s name. But very quickly, the authors move from prohibition to permission, to the various dispensations for harming non-Jews, with the central reason being their obligation to uphold the seven Noahide laws, which every human being on earth must follow. Among these commandments are prohibitions on theft, bloodshed and idolatry. [The seven Noahide laws prohibit idolatry, murder, theft, illicit sexual relations, blasphemy and eating the flesh of a live animal, and require societies to institute just laws and law courts]

“When we approach a non-Jew who has violated the seven Noahide laws and kill him out of concern for upholding these seven laws, no prohibition has been violated,” states the book, which emphasizes that killing is forbidden unless it is done in obedience to a court ruling. But later on, the authors limit the prohibition, noting that it applies only to a “proper system that deals with non-Jews who violate the seven Noahide commandments.”

The book includes another conclusion that explains when a non-Jew may be killed even if he is not an enemy of the Jews. “In any situation in which a non-Jew’s presence endangers Jewish lives, the non-Jew may be killed even if he is a righteous Gentile and not at all guilty for the situation that has been created,” the authors state. “When a non-Jew assists a murderer of Jews and causes the death of one, he may be killed, and in any case where a non-Jew’s presence causes danger to Jews, the non-Jew may be killed.”

One of the dispensations for killing non-Jews, according to religious law, applies in a case of din rodef [the law of the “pursuer,” according to which one who is pursuing another with murderous intent may be killed extrajudicially] even when the pursuer is a civilian. “The dispensation applies even when the pursuer is not threatening to kill directly, but only indirectly,” the book states. “Even a civilian who assists combat fighters is considered a pursuer and may be killed. Anyone who assists the army of the wicked in any way is strengthening murderers and is considered a pursuer. A civilian who encourages the war gives the king and his soldiers the strength to continue. Therefore, any citizen of the state that opposes us who encourages the combat soldiers or expresses satisfaction over their actions is considered a pursuer and may be killed. Also, anyone who weakens our own state by word or similar action is considered a pursuer.”

Rabbis Shapira and Elitzur determine that children may also be harmed because they are “hindrances.” The rabbis write as follows: “Hindrances—babies are found many times in this situation. They block the way to rescue by their presence and do so completely by force. Nevertheless, they may be killed because their presence aids murder. There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation they may be harmed deliberately, and not only during combat with adults.”

In addition, the children of the leader may be harmed in order to apply pressure to him. If attacking the children of a wicked ruler will influence him not to behave wickedly, they may be harmed. “It is better to kill the pursuers than to kill others,” the authors state.

In a chapter entitled “Deliberate harm to innocents,” the book explains that war is directly mainly against the pursuers, but those who belong to the enemy nation are also considered the enemy because they are assisting murderers.

Retaliation also has a place and purpose in this book by Rabbis Shapira and Elitzur. “In order to defeat the enemy, we must behave toward them in a spirit of retaliation and measure for measure,” they state. “Retaliation is absolutely necessary in order to render such wickedness not worthwhile. Therefore, sometimes we do cruel deeds in order to create the proper balance of terror.”

In one of the footnotes, the two rabbis write in such a way that appears to permit individuals to act on their own, outside of any decision by the government or the army.

“A decision by the nation is not necessary to permit shedding the blood of the evil kingdom,” the rabbis write. “Even individuals from the nation being attacked may harm them.”

Unlike books of religious law that are published by yeshivas, this time the rabbis added a chapter containing the book’s conclusions. Each of the six chapters is summarized into main points of several lines, which state, among other things: “In religious law, we have found that non-Jews are generally suspected of shedding Jewish blood, and in war, this suspicion becomes a great deal stronger. One must consider killing even babies, who have not violated the seven Noahide laws, because of the future danger that will be caused if they are allowed to grow up to be as wicked as their parents.”

Even though the authors are careful, as stated, to use the term “non-Jews,” there are certainly those who could interpret the nationality of the “non-Jews” who are liable to endanger the Jewish people. This is strengthened by the leaflet “The Jewish Voice,” which is published on the Internet from Yitzhar, which comments on the book: “It is superfluous to note that nowhere in the book is it written that the statements are directly only to the ancient non-Jews.” The leaflet’s editors did not omit a stinging remark directed at the GSS, who will certainly take the trouble to get themselves a copy. “The editors suggest to the GSS that they award the prize for Israel’s security to the authors,” the leaflet states, “who gave the detectives the option of reading the summarized conclusions without any need for in-depth study of the entire book.”

One student of the Od Yosef Hai yeshiva in Yitzhar explained, from his point of view, where Rabbis Shapira and Elitzur got the courage to speak so freely on a subject such as the killing of non-Jews. “The rabbis aren’t afraid of prosecution because in that case, Maimonides [Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, 1135–1204] and Nahmanides [Rabbi Moses ben Nahman, 1194–1270] would have to stand trial too, and anyway, this is research on religious law,” the yeshiva student said. “In a Jewish state, nobody sits in jail for studying Torah.”

UPDATES

  • November 12 2009 – Glenn Greenwald has a good comparative analysis of Muslim, Christian and Jewish fundamentalist terror and Jim Sleeper blasts critics of the Ft. Hood massacre who choose to ignore Jewish fundamentalist terror.
  • November 13, 2009 – JJ Goldberg points out that you can’t tell all Rabbis by the company they keep, Richard Silverstein sees the connection between this publication and the Jewish terrorist Jack Teitel and MJ Rosenberg blasts Krauthammer for selectively attaching religion to terrorism.
  • November 14, 2009 – Ori Nir provides a useful catalog of Jewish terrorist activity 1978. I would argue that the he should have included the many incidents over the past few years, some of which have resulted in loss of life, that settlers have used the ”Price Tag“ tactic — violent attacks on Palestinians aimed at to deterring the IDF. This is is terrorism in the narrow definition of the term.
  • November 15, 2009 – Brig. Gen. Avichai Rontzki, IDF Chief Rabbi and a resident of the West Bank settlement of Itamar told settler soldiers last Thursday that ’troops who show mercy to enemy will be damned.’ Lara Friedman provides a comprehensive backgrounder on Ronztki and his fundamentalist influence on the IDF. Richard Silverstein draws parallels in religious motivation between recently apprehended settler terrorist Jack Teitel and Nidal Malik Hasan, the instigator of the Ft. Hood massacre.
  • November 16, 2009 – Avrum Burg on how this kind of Judaism inspires murder: “”Just go to a synagogue on Sabbath eve. Go in and pick up the weekly Parasha [Torah portion] commentary pages, read them and you will see that Teitel is not alone. Teitel is just one of an entire plantation of bad weed. Some of those pages are actually financed by the state, through the Ministry of Religious Affairs. The racist lore, as taught by the rabbis of Hebron and Bet El, is everywhere. In the end, someone gets up and does the deed. We tend to ignore this, but horrible things happen there. It is in the air. I know those people. Some of them are my relatives. They do terrible things and we fail to notice.”
  • November 19, 2009 – Haaretz’s Akiva Eldar, based on Yesh Din data, reveals that the Rabbi’s Yeshiva is funded by the Israeli government.
  • December 6 2009 — Rabbi Elitzur and Ode Yosef Hai Yeshiva lead preparations for terrorizing West Bank Palestinians.
  • December 15 2009 — Haaretz uncovers US federal tax exemptions for American charities funding the rabbi.

Wednesday, July 21, 2010

The Legal and Political Aspect of Women in Islam

The Legal and Political Aspect of Women in Islam


(1) Equality before the Law: Both genders are entitled to equality before the Law and courts of Law. Justice is genderless (see the Quran 5:38, 24:2, and 5:45). Women do possess an independent legal entity in financial and other matters.

(2) Participation in Social and Political Life: The general rule in social and political life is participation and collaboration of males and females in public affairs (see the Quran 9:71). There is sufficient historical evidence of participation by Muslim women in the choice of rulers, in public issues, in Law making, in administrative positions, in scholarship and teaching, and even in the battlefield. Such involvement in social and political affairs was conducted without the participants’ losing sight of the complementary priorities of both genders and without violating Islamic guidelines of modesty and virtue.

Friday, July 2, 2010

ABC (Australia) Supremos! Are They Chicken Hawks?

ABC (Australia) Supremos! Are They Chicken Hawks?



I spoke to Australia Talk other day and felt obliged to make a posting below. Naturally, I made a few more postings to clarify the complex situation. Alas! The bosses of ABC removed three of my postings!

Removed items:

  1. (Who invented) Osama bin Laden to Slaughter the Arabs and Muslims

  2. Osama bin Laden! Guilty or Innocent?

  3. USA Must Quit Afghanistan Now

Obviously, my question is, “why the hell they are afraid of proper debate and discussions? What are they hiding?

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· Marilyn :

01 Jul 2010 12:47:00am

The sick joke is the pretence that we care about Afghan women and kids while we have hundreds of them locked up for daring to seek our help.

· Faruque Ahmed :

30 Jun 2010 10:31:43pm

This badly planned illegal and immoral invasion of Afghanistan was decided by the neo-cons without proper debates and discussions inside and outside the Parliament. The whole Afghans operation was based on pure prejudice, bigotry and sheer ignorance! More than 90% victims of this modern day crusade were unarmed women and children. Most importantly, the mercenaries did not do anything good for Afghanistan or her people! This Israel centric war of minerals and strategic games are to encircle Iran and I agree with the former defense chief Parliament Must Approve Overseas Deployment.

David Huggett :

30 Jun 2010 11:23:07pm

I totally agree with your comment up to: "...and I agree with the former defense chief Parliament Must Approve Overseas Deployment."
Please elaborate on that last bit - it doesn't fit with your first remarks.

Faruque Ahmed :

01 Jul 2010 12:02:40am

Former defense chief Peter Leahy Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war and for more please visit this link if you like.

After 9/11, they virtually blackmailed us and forced us to be involved with other peoples wars without any debate and discussions and those wars had nothing to do with Australian defense and safety.

Jon Mayhew :

01 Jul 2010 1:37:37am

Faruque, your post is itself a very good, though ironic, example of the "prejudice, bigotry and sheer ignorance" that you mentioned. While the validity of any of the policies of the 'Bush Junior' regime are suspect, you cannot simply dismiss the efforts of the western nations in Afghanistan as (yet another) Israeli conspiracy.


Who are the mercenaries you speak of? Do you mean Australians and other Western Forces trying to build schools, hospitals and other civilian infrastructure? Are they the soldiers trying to protect the UN workers? Or maybe the people trying to train Afghanistani locals to run their own country? None of those people are getting rich from their service in Afghanistan. I resent the fact that young men and women, many of them motivated by a sense of duty and idealism, are giving their lives to help those people while you hide in Australia and insult them. If you are so concerned then go over there and sort out the Taliban yourself.

The only person on the show tonight who made a positive suggestion was the bloke from the Afghanistan community group who suggested a 'coalition' from the Muslim world be sent in to sort the place out. You could join that mob - actions speak louder than words.

Faruque Ahmed :

01 Jul 2010 2:33:57am

It is a very touchy subject and the chances of misconceptions are very high. Anyway, the "local solution" was good idea then and even now. Please allow me to answer me in three parts.


(Who invented) Osama bin Laden to Slaughter the Arabs and Muslims

Bin Laden used t be `morally equivalent of American founding fathers'! Osama used to be the pin up boy of the corporate governments!! Secular and nationalists movements around the world used to be enemies of USA and religious extremists were invented and funded by USA, UK and other entities.


One day, the American Terrorist Leader Bush was playing with Billy the goat and we found out about the so called 9/11. All planes of USA were grounded except those ones escorting the precious Bin Laden clans to safe heavens!

Steel structured concrete buildings of Twin Towers melted like volcanic lava. Yet, the passport of the ring leader Mohammad Atta flew into the FBI desk!

Anyway, none of those so called hijackers were originated from Afghanistan. Yet, Afghanistan was attacked and ruined due to pipe line dream and opium trade. Iraq had nothing to do with Bin Laden or 9/11! Yet, the Illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq is well-known as Iraq: A War For Israel and Iraq pullout would hurt Israel but totally ignored by the compliant media and establishments.



In short they are running a crusade! They are using Bin Laden as a reason. Their modern day Inquisition, Conquistador and Crusade are much more brutal and vitriolic than old ones! Therefore it becomes a must to ask the following questions:

1. Who have elected Osama bin Laden as the leader of the Muslim world?

2. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became spokes person or the undisputed leader of the Muslim and Arab world?

3. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became `Pope' of the Arab and Muslim world?

4. Why Muslims and Arabs have to be guilty of alleged crimes of Osama bin Laden?

5. Who are behind these deadly games and why?

Source: http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/osama-bin-laden-to-slaughter-the-arabs-and-muslims

Faruque Ahmed :

01 Jul 2010 2:34:46am

Osama bin Laden! Guilty or Innocent?

In any civilized society each and everyone is innocent until and unless proven guilty or other wise. Now, could you kindly let me knew, which court, judge or jury have convicted Osama bin Laden of any crime; let alone terrorism? Please do not bog down about the so called confession as we have many innocents in the US prison due to "confession" and many of them were cleared by the higher technology and courts.


Most importantly, the brilliant CIA and FBI were so desperate about Osama bin laden! It is not funny!! They have to doctor a photograph of a Spanish politician to make it look like bin Laden!!!


It is sickening.

On the other hand, the case against CIA, FBI and Israel are overwhelming. Many 9/11 Investigations and Reports are smelly.


So, at the end do not forget the word, "beyond reasonable doubt". I say so while I do not like people like bin Laden.



Source: http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/osama-bin-laden-guilty-or-innocent

Faruque Ahmed :

01 Jul 2010 2:36:30am

USA Must Quit Afghanistan Now

Salman Rushdie, Bin Laden, Ershad Manji, Ayaan Hirshi Ali, Norma Khouri, 50% Mosque Spaces For Women, Tanvir Ahmed, 72 Virgins to Nothing, Muslim Women Priests, Actual Australian Muslim Virgin, Meal Ticket in Germany, Monica Ali, Burqa, Bushfire, Dog, all are carefully crafted and nurtured "accelerants" to create bushfires around the world between various sex, race, religion and people. Corporate governments of USA and Europe used to aid and abet religious extremists to counter nationalist secular movements around the world!



The Taliban and al-Qaida are a few groups biting them back and they do not have any relationship between any reae and religion.



On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about the possible nationalities and aliases of many.[85] Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt (Atta), and one from Lebanon.[86]



15 of the alleged 19 "hijackers" were from US backed Saudi Arabia and none from Afghanistan!



On October 7, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan offered to "detain bin Laden and try him under Islamic law" if the United States made a formal request and presented the Taliban with evidence. The U.S. rejected this offer as insufficient.[41]



On October 14 the Taliban offered to discuss handing over Osama bin Laden to a neutral country in return for a bombing halt, but only if the Taliban were given evidence of Bin Laden's involvement.[46] The U.S. rejected this offer as a public relations ploy and continued military operations.



However, ten years of maiming and murdering innocent civilians, destroying nature and environment due to congenital prejudice and bigotry of the Zionised and robotic Americans, today, almost everyone have turned against them!

Therefore, the Americans must quit Afghanistan with proper apology and compensation without any delay whatsoever.


The abject failure of USA in Afghanistan from the beginning to end are due to a series of monumental failures of US strategies, tactics and arrogance impregnated with prejudice and bigotry. No one can blame any race or religion for their own wrong deeds!



Source: http://nswicac.blogspot.com/2010/05/usa-must-quit-afghanistan-now.html

· Ralph :

30 Jun 2010 8:39:16pm

Are we there at all for the"people" of Afghanistan? It is claimed that we are, as well as for other matters, supporting a friend (the USA) , war on terrorism. In these noble pursuits, it seems we have to support an incredibly corrupt regime, a regime that rigs elections, who gives lip service to democratic and gender equality principles, who is in league with brutal warlords etc. Maybe we are doing some temporary good but can we say after nine years that we have achieved sustainable improvements in the lives of the Afghan people, apart from those with good connections to government?

David Huggett :

30 Jun 2010 10:13:34pm

Ralph, When you said, "we have to support an incredibly corrupt regime, a regime that rigs elections, who gives lip service to democratic and gender equality principles, who is in league with brutal warlords etc", did you realise how accurately you were describing - not Afghanistan - but America?

Australia Talk

Australia Talk debate is getting hotter and taxi is being quizzed by almost everyone!

Beside two published comments of taxi here are three more in this subject.

It is a very touchy subject and the chances of misconceptions are very high. Anyway, the "local solution" was good idea then and even now. Please allow me to answer me in three parts.

(Who invented) Osama bin Laden to Slaughter the Arabs and Muslims

Bin Laden used t be `morally equivalent of American founding fathers'! Osama used to be the pin up boy of the corporate governments!! Secular and nationalists movements around the world used to be enemies of USA and religious extremists were invented and funded by USA, UK and other entities.

One day, the American Terrorist Leader Bush was playing with Billy the goat and we found out about the so called 9/11. All planes of USA were grounded except those ones escorting the precious Bin Laden clans to safe heavens!

Steel structured concrete buildings of Twin Towers melted like volcanic lava. Yet, the passport of the ring leader Mohammad Atta flew into the FBI desk!

Anyway, none of those so called hijackers were originated from Afghanistan. Yet, Afghanistan was attacked and ruined due to pipe line dream and opium trade. Iraq had nothing to do with Bin Laden or 9/11! Yet, the Illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq is well-known as Iraq: A War For Israel and Iraq pullout would hurt Israel but totally ignored by the compliant media and establishments.


In short they are running a crusade! They are using Bin Laden as a reason. Their modern day Inquisition, Conquistador and Crusade are much more brutal and vitriolic than old ones! Therefore it becomes a must to ask the following questions:

1. Who have elected Osama bin Laden as the leader of the Muslim world?

2. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became spokes person or the undisputed leader of the Muslim and Arab world?

3. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became `Pope' of the Arab and Muslim world?

4. Why Muslims and Arabs have to be guilty of alleged crimes of Osama bin Laden?

5. Who are behind these deadly games and why?

Source: http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/osama-bin-laden-to-slaughter-the-arabs-and-muslims

Osama bin Laden! Guilty or Innocent?

In any civilized society each and everyone is innocent until and unless proven guilty or otherwise.

Now, could you kindly let me knew, which court, judge or jury have convicted Osama bin Laden of any crime; let alone terrorism?

Please do not bog down about the so called confession as we have many innocents in the US prison due to "confession" and many of them were cleared by the higher technology and courts.

Most importantly, the brilliant CIA and FBI were so desperate about Osama bin laden! It is not funny!! They have to doctor a photograph of a Spanish politician to make it look like bin Laden!!!

It is sickening.

On the other hand, the case against CIA, FBI and Israel are overwhelming. Many 9/11 Investigations and Reports are smelly.

So, at the end do not forget the word, "beyond reasonable doubt". I say so while I do not like people like bin Laden.

Source: http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/osama-bin-laden-guilty-or-innocent

USA Must Quit Afghanistan Now

Salman Rushdie, Bin Laden, Ershad Manji, Ayaan Hirshi Ali, Norma Khouri, 50% Mosque Spaces For Women, Tanvir Ahmed, 72 Virgins to Nothing, Muslim Women Priests, Actual Australian Muslim Virgin, Meal Ticket in Germany, Monica Ali, Burqa, Bushfire, Dog, … all are carefully crafted and nurtured "accelerants" to create bushfires around the world between various sex, race, religion and people. Corporate governments of USA and Europe used to aid and abet religious extremists to counter nationalist secular movements around the world!

The Taliban and al-Qaida are a few groups biting them back and they do not have any relationship between any reae and religion.

On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about the possible nationalities and aliases of many.[85] Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt (Atta), and one from Lebanon.[86]

15 of the alleged 19 "hijackers" were from US backed Saudi Arabia and none from Afghanistan!

On October 7, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan offered to "detain bin Laden and try him under Islamic law" if the United States made a formal request and presented the Taliban with evidence. The U.S. rejected this offer as insufficient.[41]

On October 14 the Taliban offered to discuss handing over Osama bin Laden to a neutral country in return for a bombing halt, but only if the Taliban were given evidence of Bin Laden's involvement.[46] The U.S. rejected this offer as a public relations ploy and continued military operations.

However, ten years of maiming and murdering innocent civilians, destroying nature and environment due to congenital prejudice and bigotry of the Zionised and robotic Americans, today, almost everyone have turned against them!

Therefore, the Americans must quit Afghanistan with proper apology and compensation without any delay whatsoever.

The abject failure of USA in Afghanistan from the beginning to end are due to a series of monumental failures of US strategies, tactics and arrogance impregnated with prejudice and bigotry. No one can blame any race or religion for their own wrong deeds!

Source: http://nswicac.blogspot.com/2010/05/usa-must-quit-afghanistan-now.html